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This is an interesting post on the Orbx forum, it confirm's that P3d v4.5 is about to enter beta, and it will help with long load times, it doesn't seem that long ago since V4.4 released, LM seem to be working hard on the Sim. For those of you that are CityScene users, especially Orlando, I have some terrific news to pass on today ! Background It has long been known that flight load times on FSX and P3D systems gradually start to slow down as more and more 3rd party products are installed. The load time increases are especially noticeable with products like CityScene Orlando, which has hundreds of thousands of custom object models. Since the release of CityScene Orlando, we have been trying to address the issue on 2 fronts: 1) Bring the issue to the attention of the P3D developers at LM, with the hope that this is something they can address in the future. 2) Work on our own end to provide more scenery configurations available to the user for improving load time, memory and performance tweaking. Of course, while #2 can help, it appeared that any real benefit for now and the future may need to come from #1. P3D Today I received some exciting news from Adam Breed at LM. We have been communicating over the last few weeks regarding the load time issue with large scenery packages, when a user has a lot of Object Libraries installed from 3rd party addons. The developers at P3D have identified the anomaly that has been causing long load times for large scenery packages, with lots of custom models, like our CityScene products. An enhancement has been put into place and will be released with the P3D V4.5 beta that should be out in about a week. As we expected, this anomaly/bug has been present going all the way back to FSX. But, it is just now showing up with larger scale, more detailed scenery products (i.e. CityScene). Keep in mind that while this enhancement will help all products, it will be especially beneficial for large area coverage products with lots of custom object models. Autogen buildings are not custom models and the enhancement will not affect those types of products. There is no release date set for P3D V4.5. It has not made it to beta testing yet. I can't thank Adam Breed and his team enough for looking into this issue in an expedited manner. I think it really shows their commitment to this industry and the quality of their work. A vast majority of our customers are running P3D v4. So, this is just great news. But, what about FSX and P3D V3 uses ? CityScene Orlando Patch For the last few weeks we have been looking at general optimizations and alternate configurations that could help FSX and P3D V3 users. These alternate configurations could shorten load times by about 3x - 5x for some users without making any scenery layer changes (like turning off the Orbx Libraries and other scenery packages). The main enhancement we are making is the ability for users to toggle whether or not they want Custom Object Models to be used for residential buildings or Autogen Buildings. Switching to autogen buildings (houses only) will reduce the detail and precision somewhat. But, it will help load times on those that will not be able to take advantage of the load time enhancements currently being made for the upcoming P3D V4.5. The CityScene Orlando patch will also fix the reported loss of Jetways at KMCO. The patch is expected to go to beta testing in the next few days and will hopefully be released in a week or so. So, there is a lot of good news to pass on today. I am especially excited about the internal optimizations being made to P3D V4, as this will have a big impact regarding all the new CityScene products we have planned for development. Special thanks to those customers that provided the great feedback regarding the load times. Cheers, Allen Kriesman SOURCE INFO DEVELOPER POST LINK : NEWS SITE ARTICLE LINK : https://orbxsystems.com/forum/topic/167793-terrific-news-for-all-simmers-especially-cityscene-customers/